It's time our side stops engaging these people on the left in this way and here's the reason why. We're playing into their strength, just as they want us to. We need to make our case, which we have, inform the government that we will not follow their dictate, which we have, move on and prepare for the arrests and other persecutions that will come.
By continuing to have these arguments, both in the Congressional hearings and on news outlets, we're allowing the administration to keep every one focused on social issues and away from the economic issues they fear most. In the end, I believe this is the real reason, or at least the primary reason at this point in time, for this attack on the First Amendment. It's mostly about re-election and getting us to watch the one hand while the other hand does the magic. Classic misdirection.
The best argument against the administration is to stand quietly against them. Just refuse to move. Now, they've tried to sidestep this tactic by making sure enforcement of their dictates won't happen until after the election. That's why they gave the Church a year to fall in line. So the way around that is to force the issue of government over reach but from different directions. Begin to exercise REAL freedom of religion. Speak directly against the administration from the pulpit. Draw the ire of the IRS and all the other dogs of government that will be set lose. Jab and punch but stay on our toes, bob and weave, don't let 'em rest.
Make them follow their nature and open the door to the real beast that they've kept bottled and in the closet. Let the people see what we've put into power. Not the sugar coated "social justice" - kumbya lie of Progressivism but the dark Hitler/Stalin reality. We'll never remove the cancer if we don't know it's there.
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I'm confused. Good and proper Catholics don't use contraception right? The Pope says don't do this thing and they don't otherwise... I dunno? Thrown into Hell or something?
ReplyDeleteSo why do you care about this? It's not going to make any difference to real Catholics right?
Oh... unless... what you really mean is that no one should be using contraception regardless of their own beliefs? Is that why you're all so upset? Because this means that non-Catholics will use birth control?
I don't have any problem with birth control from a religious or spiritual standpoint, but I'm against insurance companies paying for it. I pay for car insurance even though I've never caused a wreck in 37-years of driving. It often seems like I'm throwing money away paying for everyone else's wrecks, but I'll pay for it because I know there's a chance I could one day cause an accident too. But what if I'm married to a woman who's past menopause (as most guys over 50 probably are), and I know my wife is never going to get pregnant again? Then I'm just paying for other people's birth control with no chance of me getting anything out of it. That's not what insurance is about. Car insurance--anybody could have a wreck. Fire insurance--anyone could have a fire. Health insurance--anyone could get sick. Birth control isn't about sickness. It should have nothing to do with health insurance.
ReplyDeleteWell it's someone taking a drug that's prescribed by a doctor, that sounds pretty health related to me.
DeleteBut what you seem to be saying is that insurance is only for people who have the exact same problems as you do. I'm not sure that would make for a very effective system. The whole idea of insurance is that the cost is spread out, everyone pays a little but gets a lot when they need it. The specifics aren't really important.
This _specific_ is important to me. Anti-pregnancy insurance is not health insurance. And who's to say it will stop with drugs? What if the insurance pays for condoms too? Or sponges etc.? No prescription needed.
ReplyDeleteI've got no problem paying for birth control pills for a woman whose life will be greatly endangered by a pregnancy. But I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's jollies.
Yeah, I think that's the problem, you seem to misunderstand what insurance is all about. Your wants and needs are different from other people's, the idea of insurance is that they are all met, equally at minimal cost.
DeleteTo get oral contraceptive you have to see a doctor so it is a health issue, sex is natural right?
What if it's a woman who has already had a child and can't afford / doesn't want any more? Does that meet your approval?
Let's say the husband has HIV or some other STD would that be okay if insurance covered his condoms?
And how much more or less would you pay if insurance companies did cover condoms and other forms of birth control? I doubt it would affect anyone's premiums.
How much more do you think you pay if your insurance company had to investigate every claim to see if the pills were being purchased by people you deem worthy?
It's bizarre how other people having sex seems to be an issue with you. Why is that? I understand theists hate sex because it upsets their god(s) but you say it's not a religious thing so I'm confused.
"It's bizarre how other people having sex seems to be an issue with you."
ReplyDeleteIf you have to lie to make a point, don't bother. I've got a low tolerance for childish blathering.
Not one person who ever lived had to have sex. NOT having sex has nothing to do with health issues and it costs nothing.
Actually regular sex is healthy, check any medical journal on the subject, for both physical and mental health. Further it's a biological impulse that is at least a billion years old, why would you think it anything but important?
DeleteI can help but notice you didn't address my points or answer my question.
Here's some more, let's say you have a man who eats junk food, a pleasure far more unnecessary that sex wouldn't you say? Should you have to pay for his insulin? What about a man who doesn't exercise because he's lazy and as a result leaves himself open to heart disease, should you have to pay for the bypass and pacemaker? What about a smoker who gets the exact sort of lung cancer connected with tobacco? Should you pay for his chemo?
What about a woman who takes the pill to control her menstrual cycles, without oral contraception her period is painful and the flow so heavy she needs an iron supplement? I guess you'd be okay with that as long as she didn't have sex?
I honestly do not understand why people seem to get so bent out of shape over other people's sex lives. Is it jealousy? Prudishness? If whatever insurance plan you had suddenly cut out contraceptives do you really think your rates would go down? Since you haven't said so I assume you realize they wouldn't so I don't see how the money thing is a factor.
Why do you care what other people do with their private lives?
At best, birth control is a preventative procedure that will cost insurance companies less money in the long term over the costs involved with having children and hospital visits. If that's the case, why not demand that they also buy everybody front and side air-bags for their cars? How about buying everyone a new winter coat and gloves every winter? And why not pay for everyone to have a gym membership since obesity related medical problems are a huge expense? A little ridiculous? Yeah, like paying for birth control.
ReplyDeleteAt best, birth control is a preventative procedure that will cost insurance companies less money in the long term over the costs involved with having children and hospital visits.
ReplyDelete>Sure and it's also used to control menstrual flow and cycle, serious acne, and other medicinal applications. It's not just for sex, maybe you think I'm lying but I think Google would confirm it.
> If that's the case, why not demand that they also buy everybody front and side air-bags for their cars?
Um... . they've been made mandatory in all cars in the US since 1998.
>How about buying everyone a new winter coat and gloves every winter?
Well I'm not sure how that relates to the health care industry directly, like oral medication, but I'm also not sure how that would be a bad thing. People being warm... not good?
> And why not pay for everyone to have a gym membership since obesity related medical problems are a huge expense?
Or how about you give people tax credits and lower insurance costs upon proof of gym membership? That's such a good idea that governments and companies have been known to do it!
But I'm suspecting you 'd think that also bad.
You really resent helping people that aren't yours don't you? Why?
>A little ridiculous? Yeah, like paying for birth control.
No, not at all, pretty sensible ideas, like insurance companies covering the cost of contraception as part of their package.
What's ridiculous is you seem to think otherwise and how you don't answer any of my questions, why is that?
Every single female animal on the planet gets along quite well without artificial means of controlling their menstrual cycles, as did all female humanoids for well over a million years. Just more nonsense to sell you a pill. The act of having sex can increase antibodies (as I wrote in another comment at one of Mr. Usher's blog posts a while back); however, so does exercise.
ReplyDelete"Here's some more, let's say you have a man who eats junk food, a pleasure far more unnecessary that sex wouldn't you say? Should you have to pay for his insulin? What about a man who doesn't exercise because he's lazy and as a result leaves himself open to heart disease, should you have to pay for the bypass and pacemaker? What about a smoker who gets the exact sort of lung cancer connected with tobacco? Should you pay for his chemo? "
You seem to be under some delusion that I'm paying for these things. Do you honestly not know that these people are paying higher premiums than me specifically because of what you just described? And I'm finding my non-smoker discount quite enjoyable.
>Every single female animal on the planet gets along quite well without artificial means of controlling their menstrual cycles, as did all female humanoids for well over a million years.
ReplyDeleteSo... you don't take any modern medicines, wear shoes or do anything else that improves your life over what we had a million years ago?
>Just more nonsense to sell you a pill.
Contraceptives as hormonal treatments are a scam!
>Do you honestly not know that these people are paying higher premiums than me specifically because of what you just described?
No, I did not know that, can you show me your insurance companies page that describes it? I know that some employees will ding their employees for being unhealthy and I know that non smokers get a break and rightly so.